episode 57: what if you hit the bottom? (w/ Ben Steinbach)

hosts Elli and Jenna chat with their long-time friend, Ben Steinbach, about something we've all faced: feeling totally overwhelmed. Ben shares his own story of hitting, and growing through, a breaking point and how he uses the analogy of 'the Gardener and the Flower' as a way to think about personal balance - sometimes we do the caretaking, and sometimes we need to be taken care of. The crew discuss how tough it can be to admit when we need help, why it's actually super brave, and some practical ideas on how to find personal, sustainable equilibrium.  If you're feeling like you're drowning in responsibilities or just want to hear an honest and earnest account of finding real balance (it's totally possible!), give this episode a listen.